1 00:00:00,790 --> 00:00:07,320 [Music] 2 00:00:13,140 --> 00:00:09,230 [Applause] 3 00:00:14,609 --> 00:00:13,150 firstly just wanna thank dr. de mer and 4 00:00:17,909 --> 00:00:14,619 the rest of the conveners of the session 5 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:17,919 for inviting me to give this talk which 6 00:00:22,230 --> 00:00:19,810 is going to be as Bruce mentioned on the 7 00:00:24,689 --> 00:00:22,240 fates of nucleobases in warm little 8 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:24,699 ponds delivered by meteorites and 9 00:00:30,839 --> 00:00:26,650 interplanetary dust particles so the so 10 00:00:35,100 --> 00:00:30,849 called exogenous delivery hypothesis can 11 00:00:37,799 --> 00:00:35,110 I use to change this thing okay okay so 12 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:37,809 let's motivate this why pons why we want 13 00:00:42,450 --> 00:00:39,730 to deliver to pons why not deliver to 14 00:00:44,789 --> 00:00:42,460 the desert why not deliver to the ocean 15 00:00:46,500 --> 00:00:44,799 well there's really two main reasons the 16 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:46,510 first being that these are actual 17 00:00:51,780 --> 00:00:48,330 locations where you might be able to do 18 00:00:52,649 --> 00:00:51,790 concentrated prebiotic chemistry the 19 00:00:54,049 --> 00:00:52,659 chemists in the room could probably 20 00:00:55,979 --> 00:00:54,059 attest that you can't really do 21 00:00:57,719 --> 00:00:55,989 prebiotic chemistry with parts per 22 00:01:00,299 --> 00:00:57,729 trillion level concentrations you need 23 00:01:01,859 --> 00:01:00,309 something more substantial and these are 24 00:01:03,929 --> 00:01:01,869 some locations where you could possibly 25 00:01:06,810 --> 00:01:03,939 get them just due to the lower volume 26 00:01:08,700 --> 00:01:06,820 within ponds and the second and most 27 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:08,710 important is that these are locations 28 00:01:15,960 --> 00:01:11,890 that have wet and dry cycles which is 29 00:01:17,700 --> 00:01:15,970 key for polymerizing RNA and dr. Paul 30 00:01:20,490 --> 00:01:17,710 Brocker told us this morning about the 31 00:01:22,230 --> 00:01:20,500 condensation reaction and how in order 32 00:01:24,420 --> 00:01:22,240 to make photo diaster bonds you need to 33 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:24,430 remove water so unless you have these 34 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:26,650 alternating wet and dry environments 35 00:01:35,970 --> 00:01:28,450 then it's hard for you to make those 36 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:35,980 bonds okay so the driving question of my 37 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:37,930 research for a long time has been you 38 00:01:44,130 --> 00:01:40,450 know how did nucleobases arise in ponds 39 00:01:46,260 --> 00:01:44,140 on the prebiotic earth why why are we 40 00:01:47,730 --> 00:01:46,270 interested this question well in the RNA 41 00:01:50,670 --> 00:01:47,740 world hypothesis we're really trying to 42 00:01:52,649 --> 00:01:50,680 get to a self-replicating RNA molecule 43 00:01:54,180 --> 00:01:52,659 so maybe one of the most obvious 44 00:01:55,890 --> 00:01:54,190 questions you could ask is well then 45 00:01:58,850 --> 00:01:55,900 where did the building blocks of RNA 46 00:02:01,950 --> 00:01:58,860 come from nuclear bases are these 47 00:02:03,660 --> 00:02:01,960 characteristic molecules in in the 48 00:02:05,550 --> 00:02:03,670 building blocks and nucleotides and 49 00:02:08,850 --> 00:02:05,560 there they are attached to the ribose 50 00:02:11,430 --> 00:02:08,860 phosphate backbone I skipped over some 51 00:02:14,220 --> 00:02:11,440 details there it is not trivial to get 52 00:02:16,259 --> 00:02:14,230 to a nucleotide in a pond from just a 53 00:02:17,759 --> 00:02:16,269 nucleobase ribose and phosphorous source 54 00:02:19,709 --> 00:02:17,769 but I want to point your attention to 55 00:02:21,930 --> 00:02:19,719 some recent experiments that many of you 56 00:02:24,750 --> 00:02:21,940 probably know about which may have had 57 00:02:26,670 --> 00:02:24,760 success in this this is namma Dell these 58 00:02:29,070 --> 00:02:26,680 are both PNAS articles where they have 59 00:02:31,590 --> 00:02:29,080 reacted nucleobases ribose and 60 00:02:35,460 --> 00:02:31,600 phosphoric acid in micro droplets in 61 00:02:37,380 --> 00:02:35,470 order to produce nucleosides and then 62 00:02:40,380 --> 00:02:37,390 there has been a wealth of experiments 63 00:02:42,270 --> 00:02:40,390 in the past which have have had some 64 00:02:45,390 --> 00:02:42,280 success in phosphorylating those 65 00:02:49,110 --> 00:02:45,400 nucleosides and i point you to a review 66 00:02:51,630 --> 00:02:49,120 by gullet al 2014 for those results so 67 00:02:53,820 --> 00:02:51,640 back to the main question how did 68 00:02:55,770 --> 00:02:53,830 nuclear bases arise in warm little ponds 69 00:02:57,570 --> 00:02:55,780 what are the sources you can really 70 00:03:00,240 --> 00:02:57,580 break these down into two types of 71 00:03:02,250 --> 00:03:00,250 sources you have your delivery from 72 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:02,260 space so your exogenously livery 73 00:03:07,410 --> 00:03:03,850 hypothesis and then you can also have 74 00:03:09,090 --> 00:03:07,420 the production on the planet itself for 75 00:03:11,340 --> 00:03:09,100 exhaustion is deliver your two options 76 00:03:13,620 --> 00:03:11,350 are meteorites and interplanetary dust 77 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:13,630 particles meteorites have been analyzed 78 00:03:18,300 --> 00:03:15,970 to contain nucleobases and IDPs are 79 00:03:20,820 --> 00:03:18,310 thought to also perhaps contain the same 80 00:03:23,220 --> 00:03:20,830 molecules and then for endogenous 81 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:23,230 production you have photo chemistry in 82 00:03:27,630 --> 00:03:25,810 the atmosphere UV photons can be 83 00:03:30,540 --> 00:03:27,640 absorbed by methane and nitrogen 84 00:03:33,180 --> 00:03:30,550 molecules to break them apart and those 85 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:33,190 radicals that form from that react form 86 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:35,770 hydrogen cyanide which once it dissolves 87 00:03:40,010 --> 00:03:37,330 into rainwater and falls into ponds 88 00:03:43,199 --> 00:03:40,020 could possibly through aqueous chemistry 89 00:03:44,790 --> 00:03:43,209 produce nucleobases lightning chemistry 90 00:03:46,170 --> 00:03:44,800 can do the exact same thing the only 91 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:46,180 difference is you're changing the energy 92 00:03:51,510 --> 00:03:48,610 source which is creating those radicals 93 00:03:53,729 --> 00:03:51,520 which react to form hydrogen cyanide so 94 00:03:56,910 --> 00:03:53,739 this is what I'm working on right now 95 00:03:58,710 --> 00:03:56,920 this is a work in progress we've built a 96 00:04:00,120 --> 00:03:58,720 chemical Network a hydrogen cyanide 97 00:04:02,220 --> 00:04:00,130 chemical Network from the ground up 98 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:02,230 using quantum computational chemistry 99 00:04:07,890 --> 00:04:05,170 methods and we found many reactions 100 00:04:10,410 --> 00:04:07,900 which have not been which have not been 101 00:04:12,210 --> 00:04:10,420 seen in literature literature before so 102 00:04:14,510 --> 00:04:12,220 I'm hoping to show you some results from 103 00:04:17,070 --> 00:04:14,520 that sometime in the very near future 104 00:04:18,420 --> 00:04:17,080 but for today let's focus just on the 105 00:04:23,700 --> 00:04:18,430 meteorites and interplanetary dust 106 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:23,710 particles so why are these sources why 107 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:25,090 think about nuclear bases being 108 00:04:28,260 --> 00:04:26,530 delivered by these sources well as I 109 00:04:30,180 --> 00:04:28,270 mentioned before many works have 110 00:04:32,070 --> 00:04:30,190 analyzed them for nuclear bases and we 111 00:04:35,010 --> 00:04:32,080 know they can reach the surface intact 112 00:04:37,050 --> 00:04:35,020 the most obvious reason is because in 113 00:04:39,210 --> 00:04:37,060 two people literally go and search for 114 00:04:41,610 --> 00:04:39,220 them and pick them up so we know that 115 00:04:43,950 --> 00:04:41,620 they landed there intact but other 116 00:04:45,779 --> 00:04:43,960 hypothetical models have found that if 117 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:45,789 you're a meteoroid entering the 118 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:48,370 atmosphere and you're about 80 40 to 80 119 00:04:52,710 --> 00:04:50,050 meters in diameter you're kind of the 120 00:04:54,570 --> 00:04:52,720 key size for you to break up into 121 00:04:58,230 --> 00:04:54,580 fragments and actually reach terminal 122 00:05:02,369 --> 00:04:58,240 velocity and kind of fall down and ponds 123 00:05:04,409 --> 00:05:02,379 just just intact a major study benchmark 124 00:05:06,629 --> 00:05:04,419 study by Carl Sagan and and Christopher 125 00:05:08,969 --> 00:05:06,639 Kaiba found that IDPs are actually a 126 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:08,979 major source of organics so it's 127 00:05:14,070 --> 00:05:10,690 important to explore these as possible 128 00:05:15,899 --> 00:05:14,080 sources as well so what do we do well we 129 00:05:18,570 --> 00:05:15,909 built in numerical sources and sinks 130 00:05:21,570 --> 00:05:18,580 model of a warm little pond in order to 131 00:05:23,460 --> 00:05:21,580 ask the question what concentrations of 132 00:05:26,010 --> 00:05:23,470 nucleobases can you actually reach in 133 00:05:29,189 --> 00:05:26,020 ponds you know is it comparable to what 134 00:05:30,629 --> 00:05:29,199 chemistry experiments can actually do so 135 00:05:32,399 --> 00:05:30,639 here we have a schematic on the right 136 00:05:34,559 --> 00:05:32,409 and on the left if you prefer looking at 137 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:34,569 things in tabular form I'll just walk 138 00:05:38,129 --> 00:05:35,770 you through these source in the sinks 139 00:05:40,490 --> 00:05:38,139 for pond water we we have precipitation 140 00:05:42,540 --> 00:05:40,500 and the sinks or evaporation and seepage 141 00:05:45,330 --> 00:05:42,550 four nucleobases we're comparing 142 00:05:47,459 --> 00:05:45,340 meteorites and IDPs as sources and for 143 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:47,469 sinks we have hydrolysis seepage and foa 144 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:50,050 sociation we get the rates for these 145 00:05:53,909 --> 00:05:51,370 sources and sinks mostly from 146 00:05:55,249 --> 00:05:53,919 experiments however in the case of 147 00:05:57,510 --> 00:05:55,259 precipitation we use the historical 148 00:05:59,879 --> 00:05:57,520 precipitation record and for the mass 149 00:06:03,899 --> 00:05:59,889 delivery by IDPs and meteorites we use 150 00:06:06,779 --> 00:06:03,909 the lunar crater in record so let's go 151 00:06:09,990 --> 00:06:06,789 through the results on the left here we 152 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:10,000 have the pond water level and what we 153 00:06:12,959 --> 00:06:11,050 notice is there's actually a lot 154 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:12,969 degeneracies in our model for instance 155 00:06:18,450 --> 00:06:15,490 if we model as as an analogue for the 156 00:06:20,820 --> 00:06:18,460 early Earth Columbia today at 65 degrees 157 00:06:22,980 --> 00:06:20,830 it actually overlaps with Thailand at 20 158 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:22,990 degrees so instead of trying to cover 159 00:06:26,420 --> 00:06:24,610 all different temperatures for a 160 00:06:29,129 --> 00:06:26,430 hypothetical early Earth and 161 00:06:30,779 --> 00:06:29,139 precipitation amounts we just modeled 162 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:30,789 three different environments which have 163 00:06:34,439 --> 00:06:32,289 many redundance which may have many 164 00:06:36,629 --> 00:06:34,449 degeneracies we call them a wet and 165 00:06:38,010 --> 00:06:36,639 intermediate and a dry environment and 166 00:06:39,659 --> 00:06:38,020 notice in the intermediate dry 167 00:06:42,959 --> 00:06:39,669 environments you actually get natural 168 00:06:45,209 --> 00:06:42,969 annual wet and dry cycles so that pops 169 00:06:47,639 --> 00:06:45,219 out just do the data we didn't impose 170 00:06:48,840 --> 00:06:47,649 that that's just due to the changing 171 00:06:50,550 --> 00:06:48,850 precipitation 172 00:06:53,130 --> 00:06:50,560 on the earth everywhere on the earth 173 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:53,140 today on the right you can see the 174 00:06:58,320 --> 00:06:55,690 adenine concentration from just IDPs 175 00:06:59,640 --> 00:06:58,330 within one little ponds and in red you 176 00:07:01,860 --> 00:06:59,650 can see you can follow there's three 177 00:07:04,530 --> 00:07:01,870 features here and on in blue you have 178 00:07:05,790 --> 00:07:04,540 the the wet/dry cycle so you can see 179 00:07:08,340 --> 00:07:05,800 what's happening in the pond at the same 180 00:07:10,950 --> 00:07:08,350 time what happens is as your pond dries 181 00:07:13,860 --> 00:07:10,960 up you get to your maximum concentration 182 00:07:15,540 --> 00:07:13,870 of adenine and then the pond dries UV 183 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:15,550 foud sociation is turned on and it 184 00:07:20,100 --> 00:07:17,650 blasts away your adenine to an amount 185 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:20,110 where your incoming adenine rate matches 186 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:22,810 your photo destruction rate then your 187 00:07:27,030 --> 00:07:25,090 pond fills up again you dilute and then 188 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:27,040 this pattern continues on an annual 189 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:30,370 basis and it never changes it never gets 190 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:33,010 any more concentrated now notice what it 191 00:07:37,710 --> 00:07:34,690 says on the y-axis there that says 192 00:07:40,380 --> 00:07:37,720 adenine mass fraction ppq that's not a 193 00:07:42,510 --> 00:07:40,390 typo that's parts per quadrillion which 194 00:07:44,430 --> 00:07:42,520 is completely negligible so what this 195 00:07:47,070 --> 00:07:44,440 says is that you're never gonna get a 196 00:07:49,110 --> 00:07:47,080 concentration of nucleobases and warm 197 00:07:51,090 --> 00:07:49,120 little ponds from IDP sources they 198 00:07:53,340 --> 00:07:51,100 simply rain down on to the surface too 199 00:07:55,140 --> 00:07:53,350 slowly and the destructive forces then 200 00:08:00,030 --> 00:07:55,150 the pond are too efficient at removing 201 00:08:02,220 --> 00:08:00,040 them but what about meteorites here we 202 00:08:04,710 --> 00:08:02,230 compare meteorites to IDPs for the pond 203 00:08:07,050 --> 00:08:04,720 concentration IDP curves are on the 204 00:08:08,970 --> 00:08:07,060 lower heart lower half and the meteorite 205 00:08:11,340 --> 00:08:08,980 curves are on the upper half and notice 206 00:08:13,290 --> 00:08:11,350 the stark difference in your maximum 207 00:08:16,110 --> 00:08:13,300 adenine concentration between these two 208 00:08:18,420 --> 00:08:16,120 sources so what's happening here well 209 00:08:20,250 --> 00:08:18,430 meteorites deliver a large sum of 210 00:08:22,890 --> 00:08:20,260 nucleobases on the on the order of 211 00:08:24,900 --> 00:08:22,900 milligrams in one single event those 212 00:08:27,060 --> 00:08:24,910 nuclear bases outflow from the pores of 213 00:08:29,370 --> 00:08:27,070 the meteorite and get up to parts per 214 00:08:31,890 --> 00:08:29,380 million level concentrations and then 215 00:08:34,110 --> 00:08:31,900 begin to dilute from there and parts per 216 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:34,120 million is still quite low but it's on 217 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:35,290 the lower end of what you can actually 218 00:08:41,070 --> 00:08:38,610 do perhaps a chemistry experiment with 219 00:08:43,770 --> 00:08:41,080 but there's still some issues notice the 220 00:08:44,940 --> 00:08:43,780 red curve there sharply declines at some 221 00:08:47,580 --> 00:08:44,950 point that's when photodissociation 222 00:08:50,580 --> 00:08:47,590 turns on and it's completely destructive 223 00:08:53,370 --> 00:08:50,590 so you need a solution any surface model 224 00:08:56,250 --> 00:08:53,380 on the early Earth needs a solution for 225 00:08:57,960 --> 00:08:56,260 the photo destruction problem we like to 226 00:09:00,450 --> 00:08:57,970 think of sediments as being a possible 227 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:00,460 solution sediment is everywhere in the 228 00:09:02,389 --> 00:09:00,930 wind 229 00:09:04,310 --> 00:09:02,399 gonna fall into ponds and it's gonna 230 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:04,320 create a layer at the base which could 231 00:09:08,090 --> 00:09:06,450 possibly shields nucleobases from faux 232 00:09:10,490 --> 00:09:08,100 destruction it only takes about a 233 00:09:13,490 --> 00:09:10,500 millimeter to completely attenuate UV 234 00:09:15,530 --> 00:09:13,500 lights the second most destructive sink 235 00:09:16,550 --> 00:09:15,540 in the pond is seepage through pores in 236 00:09:18,100 --> 00:09:16,560 the base of the pond and that's what 237 00:09:20,420 --> 00:09:18,110 you're seeing in that blue curve there 238 00:09:23,060 --> 00:09:20,430 so we like to think of a solution for 239 00:09:24,680 --> 00:09:23,070 this as encapsulation something that dr. 240 00:09:27,260 --> 00:09:24,690 Christine Keating was talking about this 241 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:27,270 more at this morning's plenary so if you 242 00:09:31,340 --> 00:09:29,610 if you take fatty acids which also 243 00:09:33,019 --> 00:09:31,350 happened to be in meteorites in fact 244 00:09:35,269 --> 00:09:33,029 fatty acids are the most abundant 245 00:09:38,329 --> 00:09:35,279 organic and meteorites you put those 246 00:09:40,460 --> 00:09:38,339 into a pond and all the all the fatty 247 00:09:42,170 --> 00:09:40,470 acids that are 8 carbons in length or 248 00:09:44,150 --> 00:09:42,180 longer are going to create spiracle 249 00:09:46,730 --> 00:09:44,160 compartments called vesicles and the 250 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:46,740 average diameter of vesicles is larger 251 00:09:50,510 --> 00:09:48,810 than your average pore diameter so this 252 00:09:52,639 --> 00:09:50,520 might be a potential solution for 253 00:09:55,190 --> 00:09:52,649 avoiding seeping through holes in the 254 00:09:56,870 --> 00:09:55,200 base to your pond ok the last thing I'm 255 00:09:59,720 --> 00:09:56,880 going to talk about is actually how 256 00:10:00,860 --> 00:09:59,730 often did meteorites land in ponds on 257 00:10:03,620 --> 00:10:00,870 the early earth just the carbon-rich 258 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:03,630 ones we ran a probability analysis which 259 00:10:07,820 --> 00:10:05,730 is based on a geophysical model of the 260 00:10:11,449 --> 00:10:07,830 rising continental crust you can see in 261 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:11,459 the orange line there from 4.5 to 3.7 262 00:10:15,110 --> 00:10:13,170 billion years ago which is the interval 263 00:10:16,910 --> 00:10:15,120 in which we know life emerged and we 264 00:10:18,620 --> 00:10:16,920 used three different mass delivery 265 00:10:21,230 --> 00:10:18,630 models which are all based on the lunar 266 00:10:23,329 --> 00:10:21,240 crater in record now if you're at dr. 267 00:10:25,490 --> 00:10:23,339 Nicole's elders talk yesterday you know 268 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:25,500 that there's now evidence that there's 269 00:10:30,140 --> 00:10:28,650 mass delivered to the moon before 3.9 270 00:10:32,150 --> 00:10:30,150 billion years ago so we can go ahead and 271 00:10:34,100 --> 00:10:32,160 ignore this black curve right there 272 00:10:36,380 --> 00:10:34,110 which is the single Cataclysm model and 273 00:10:38,210 --> 00:10:36,390 just focus on the to sustain declining 274 00:10:40,220 --> 00:10:38,220 bombardment models the red and the blue 275 00:10:42,620 --> 00:10:40,230 with the truth probably being somewhere 276 00:10:44,050 --> 00:10:42,630 between those two models we ran the 277 00:10:46,790 --> 00:10:44,060 probability based on the geometric 278 00:10:51,140 --> 00:10:46,800 probability of landing a meteorite into 279 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:51,150 a pond and what do we find 15 to 4,000 280 00:10:56,210 --> 00:10:53,730 carbon-rich meteorites landed into warm 281 00:10:59,360 --> 00:10:56,220 little ponds on the early earth from 4.5 282 00:11:01,010 --> 00:10:59,370 to 3.7 billion years ago so this is good 283 00:11:02,180 --> 00:11:01,020 we know that this did happen and the 284 00:11:06,079 --> 00:11:02,190 truth is probably somewhere in between 285 00:11:06,980 --> 00:11:06,089 probably in the thousands regime all 286 00:11:08,660 --> 00:11:06,990 right that's all I should talk about 287 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:08,670 I'll just summarize my results quickly 288 00:11:12,740 --> 00:11:11,010 we find meteorites or a plausible and 289 00:11:14,759 --> 00:11:12,750 probable source four parts per million 290 00:11:18,269 --> 00:11:14,769 level concentrations of new 291 00:11:19,889 --> 00:11:18,279 Leigha bases and ponds IDPs however the 292 00:11:22,169 --> 00:11:19,899 the nucleobases delivered by these 293 00:11:24,359 --> 00:11:22,179 produce negligible concentrations within 294 00:11:27,569 --> 00:11:24,369 ponds so we can forget about IDPs as 295 00:11:29,429 --> 00:11:27,579 being a source of nucleobases for for 296 00:11:31,739 --> 00:11:29,439 pond environments we get natural 297 00:11:34,199 --> 00:11:31,749 seasonal wet and dry cycles and ponds 298 00:11:37,019 --> 00:11:34,209 just from seasonal precipitation changes 299 00:11:39,179 --> 00:11:37,029 the two main problems with this surface 300 00:11:41,429 --> 00:11:39,189 model are UV foe dissociation and 301 00:11:45,479 --> 00:11:41,439 seepage we think possible solutions for 302 00:11:47,970 --> 00:11:45,489 those are our sediment and encapsulation 303 00:11:50,220 --> 00:11:47,980 and finally we find thousands of 304 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:50,230 terminal-velocity carbon-rich meteorites 305 00:11:54,059 --> 00:11:51,610 landed in ponds on the early earth 306 00:11:57,030 --> 00:11:54,069 giving life thousands of opportunities 307 00:12:06,059 --> 00:11:57,040 to fail before perhaps succeeding in one 308 00:12:07,799 --> 00:12:06,069 of these ponds okay thank you we have 309 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:07,809 time for one quick question well dr. 310 00:12:13,379 --> 00:12:11,290 Deemer comes up so I was just wondering 311 00:12:16,289 --> 00:12:13,389 you're showing wet/dry cycles on the 312 00:12:18,329 --> 00:12:16,299 order of years and what we've been 313 00:12:20,389 --> 00:12:18,339 talking about most most people have 314 00:12:23,669 --> 00:12:20,399 shown wet/dry cycle on the order of days 315 00:12:25,919 --> 00:12:23,679 and so if you did have wet/dry cycles 316 00:12:29,699 --> 00:12:25,929 daily how long would it take for 317 00:12:31,859 --> 00:12:29,709 photodissociation to occur so every time 318 00:12:34,049 --> 00:12:31,869 you dry up your pond in our model we 319 00:12:36,329 --> 00:12:34,059 turn on photo station and it only takes 320 00:12:39,030 --> 00:12:36,339 a matter of hours for it to destroy 321 00:12:40,919 --> 00:12:39,040 pretty much everything in your pond so 322 00:12:43,710 --> 00:12:40,929 in the case if you had a daily wet/dry 323 00:12:46,079 --> 00:12:43,720 cycle and you landed a meteorite in that 324 00:12:50,999 --> 00:12:46,089 pond the day before it's gone by the 325 00:12:52,710 --> 00:12:51,009 next day yeah all right we have to close 326 00:12:55,470 --> 00:12:52,720 that up word for time dr. Deemer if you 327 00:12:56,560 --> 00:12:55,480 want to come up Thank You Ben 328 00:12:57,530 --> 00:12:56,570 [Applause]